Charles Octavie Reed

Male 1874 - 1918  (~ 44 years)

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  • Name Charles Octavie Reed 
    Born Jun 1874  Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 27 Oct 1918  Saraland, Mobile County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I271987797528  Eby/Aebi and Bernethy Family
    Last Modified 2 Aug 2013 

    Father Seaborn Reed,   b. Oct 1836, Washington County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1905, Baxterville, Lamar County, Mississippi Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Mother Georgann Dunn Logan,   b. 1840, Washington County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F546679029  Group Sheet

    Family 1 Mary Evans Brock,   b. Sep 1876, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location 
     1. Delma Reed,   b. Jan 1899, Washington County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Willmer Reed,   b. Abt 1901, Mississippi Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Minnie Reid,   b. Abt 1903, Mississippi Find all individuals with events at this location
    +4. Tilman Reid,   b. 7 Sep 1906, Baxterville, Lamar County, Mississippi Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Sep 1939, Washington Parish, Louisiana Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 33 years)
     5. Agnes Reed,   b. Abt 1910, Lamar County, Mississippi Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 2 Aug 2013 
    Family ID F246719069355  Group Sheet

    Family 2 Mollie Hartfield,   b. Unknown 
    Last Modified 8 Apr 2009 
    Family ID F246719069356  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Jun 1874 - Alabama Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 27 Oct 1918 - Saraland, Mobile County, Alabama Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • 1880 Census Citronelle, Mobile, Alabama as Charles REID
      1900 Census Sims Chapel, Washington, Alabama as Charley REED
      1910 Census Beat 1, Lamar, Mississippi as Charlie REID

    • Alabama, Deaths and Burials Index, 1881-1974 about Chas Reid
      Name: Chas Reid
      Birth Date: abt 1874
      Death Date: 27 Oct 1918
      Death Place: Saraland, Mobile, Alabama
      Death Age: 44
      Gender: Male
      FHL Film Number: 1908199

    • Charlie Octavie Reid was said to have been born in Purvis (Lamar County), MS, by three researchers, including the leading researcher, Woodrow Wallace. However, the 1880 Mobile County and the 1900 Washington County census show him as born in Alabama (and still indicating his color was Black, which may have been a strong motivation to join the rest of the family in Mississippi, where they were considered to be White). Actually, all of the family was in Charity Chapel (present day Washington County) in 1880, but were counted on the Mobile County census either because they got their mail thru Citronelle in Mobile County or because the county boundaries subsequently changed, or because Charity Chapel may have been erroneously believed to be within the Mobile County lines. Jacqueline Anderson Matte, in her book "They Say the Wind is Red," says that Seaborn bought land and established Charity Chapel (Washington County), AL in 1871. This same land is listed on a patent issued to Seabourn Reid in 1883 by the Government Land Office. Hence, it is highly unlikely Seaborn left Alabama before then or that Charlie Octavie Reid was born anywhere other than Charity Chapel. The registration of births in Miss. apparently did not even begin until 1912, further casting question on the correctness of the above info pertaining to his Purvis birth. The only evidence that he was born other than in Alabama is the 1910 Lamar County, MS, census indicating he was born in Mississippi, but that is apparently an error. The same error is repeated for his first wife, Mary Evans, who also was from a Charity Chapel family, as evidenced by the fact that her female children by Charlie went to live in Charity Chapel, with her brother, James Evans, after Charlie's death, Mary having preceded him. The girls Minnie and Agnes are shown in James Evans' household on the 1920 census.In as much as he is shown on the 1900 Washington County (ED 122, Sheet 12, Precinct 11, Simmes Chapel) it appears unquestionable that he did not come to Mississippi before the majority of the family moved to Miss in the 1890s, and he probably came only for visits prior to 1900. It is clear that he was in Mississippi for the 1910 census of Lamar County and some years thereafter, since his first wife died after 1910 and he married his second wife in 1911, in Miss.Sometime before his death, Charlie apparently moved his family back to Alabama, since all sources agree that he died in Saraland, AL (although Woodie does not have him dying until 1920, which is in error, since by Feb 1920 Charlie's wife and son were back in the household of her father in Lamar County, MS, and his children by Mary Evans were in either a cousin's household or with Mary's brother). Son Charlie Reid's notes state that he died during the Spanish influenza epidemic in November 1918, but there is an entry in the Alabama death records Soundex indicating a "Chas. Reid" died in Mobile County on October 27, 1918, and that is most likely referring to him. He is buried in the Charity Chapel AL cemetery in an unmarked grave beside that of his children. Concrete pads were poured over the graves by Clyde Reid, son of Charlie's son William Henry (Wilmer), who is buried a few feet away. Notes left by Charlie Reid, son of Charlie Octavie Reid, list the order of graves in Charity Chapel cemetery from north to south as follows (list was made before the death of Wilmer's wife, who now rests by his side):William Henry (Wilmer) Reid; Stephen Anthony Reid; Elizabeth Ann Reid (not to be confused with Seaborn's daughter); Thelma Reid Driver; Bobby Ray Reid; Edwin Leon Helveston Jr; Wallace Brown; Tillman Reid; Delmar Reid; Agnes Reid; Charlie Octavie Reid.He was married first to Mary Evans. (Some researchers have indicated her last name was Brock, but it was Evans according to Charlie Octavie Reid's son Charlie's notes and what other son Wilmer Reid passed on to his son Clyde Reid; moreover, the residency of two of his children, Minnie and Agnes, with James Evans, "Uncle," on the 1920 census provides conclusive evidence that her name was Evans; James Evans is buried in the Charity Chapel cemetery near the other members of the Reid family.). One of Charlie Octavie Reid's nephews, Charlie W. Reid, married a Bertie Brock, and it may be that other researchers have confused the two. According to the 1910 Lamar County, MS, census, completed in Feb of that year, Charlie Octavie Reid and Mary had been married 13 years, and she is shown to be the mother of all five(5) children in their household. Mollie Hartfield and Charlie Octavie Reid are documented in State of Mississippi records as having married in Lamar County on 18 June 1911, meaning Mary Evans died sometime shortly after the 1910 census.His children by Mary and their ages on the 1910 census were Delmer - 11; Wilmer - 9; Minnie - 7,Tilman -4, and Agnes, 12 months. All these children remained in Alabama following his death, but apparently Minnie did subsequently return to Mississippi, since she is said to have been buried in Baxterville, MS cemetery by all the researchers. The 1920 census also only shows Mollie and son Charlie living in the household of her father, George W. Hartfied near Purvis, MS in Lamar County.Apparently, Charlie Octavie received a Bureau of Land Management Patent on 40 acres of land (Accession Serial #MS3270_.033) in Lamar County in 1904 (the patent is in the name "Charley). It is known that Charlie Reid, his son, sold 6 acres of land in Lamar County in the late 1940s, which were apparently his allotted share of the remainder. Why, of all Seaborn's descendents, only Charlie Octavie left Mississippi and returned to Alabama is unknown, although it has been stated by some that he possibly had "trouble with the law." Whether he intended to return to Mississippi is unknown.Charlie married (1) Mary EVANS in 1897. Mary was born about 1878 in Alabama. She died in Nov 1910 in Baxterville, MS. She was buried in Entrekin Cemetery,Elder Ridge MS near Carnes. Some researchers have listed Mary Evans as Mary Brock. Her grandson, Clyde Reid, son of William Henry (Uncle Wilmer) Reid, states that her last name was indeed EVANS, according to his father. Where "Brock" came from is unknown. Charlie Reid, son of Charlie Octavie Reid, also said her last name was Evans. The strongest evidence of that is found on the 1920 census, showing that both Agnes and Minnie, her daughters, were living with James Evans in Washington County, who is listed as their uncle. For more detail, see notes for Charlie Octavie Reid.Charlie and Mary had the following children: 100 MiDelmer REID was born on 19 Jan 1898/1899 in Alabama. He died on 11 Feb 1937 in Washington County, AL. He was buried in Charity Chapel, AL. Delmer is shown in the household of his father and mother on the 1900 Washington County census, as a 1-year old born in Alabama, notwithstanding that the 1910 Lamar County, MS census would erroneous say he was born in Miss. He is shown as being born in 1899 on the 1900 census, although later documents reflect his birth year as 1898. Following his father's death, Delmer (along with Tilman) remained in Alabama, living with a cousin, Alex Reid, in Mobile County, AL, on the 1920 census. His wife Zell was Alex's daughter. Delmer married Zell REID. Zell was born on 18 Jun 1900 in Alabama. She died in Nov 1993 in Alabama. +101 Mii William Henry (Wilmer) REID was born on 6 Jun 1901. He died on 5 Apr 1978. 102 FiiiMinnie Lee REID was born in 1903 in Baxterville, MS. She died on 3 Mar 1921 in Baxterville, MS. She was buried in Baxterville, MS. According to Researcher Woodie Wallace, Minnie died in 1916, but Charlie Reid, her half-brother, left notes which gave the date of her death as Mar 1921, which is moreover supported by the fact that she was still alive and living with an uncle, James Evans, back in Alabama, on the 1920 Washington County census. According to Charlie's notes, she died and was buried in Baxterville, MS, which meant she apparently returned to Mississippi shortly after being counted in the 1920 Washington County census.+103 Miv Tilman REID was born on 7 Sep 1906. He died on 9 Nov 1939. +104 Fv Agnes REID was born on 5 Apr 1909. She died about 6 Jul 1932. Charlie married (2) Mary Catherine "Mollie" HARTFIELD on 18 Jun 1911 in Lamar County, MS. Mary was born about 1875 in Lamar County, MS. She died about 1953 in Hattiesburg, MS. She was buried in Oak Grove Church Cemetery, Oak Grove, MS. The Hartfield family was a large family in the south Miss. area around Marion, Lamar, Pearl River and Perry (later Forrest) Counties. Mollie's marriage to Charlie Octavie Reid is documented in State of Miss. records. She was 35 at the time of that marriage, according to the 1930 Forrest County, MS, census.Mollie brought Charlie back to Miss. sometime following the death of Charlie Octavie in Alabama during the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918. On the 1920 Lamar County census she is shown with son Charlie in the household of her father and mother. She and Charlie apparently lived with various other members of the family at times. She lived with her son Charlie later, even after he was married to Myrtle Lou Ethel Williams, and died at an elderly age in the early 50s while living with them at Hattiesburg. She is buried in the church cemetery at Oak Grove (Lamar County), MS. Her grave is not marked.For ancestry and siblings of Mollie, see MY HARTFIELD FAMILY.Charlie and Mollie had the following children: +105 Mvi Charlie REID was born on 25 Jun 1912. He died on 28 May 1983.

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